For those of you that need to turn stuff in....

Some of you have not given me artist statements. If you want to receive a grade, then you need to get those to me. I am giving you until the last day of class to revise your statements and to get them to me.

It's your responsibility to get me your assignments so don't expect me to beat down your door looking for them.

We will not be using Frankenstein (the book) for Unit 4. I encourage all of your to read it on your own, but you don't need to read it for this class.

Have a good break!

I have only a few ideas on how to present my portfolio. Two of which are digital.
The first idea I have is in DVD format. Another idea I have could be through a website layout.
Graphic Design is my major, so I would like to exercise my skills by doing so.

I would like to use bright colors or a unique color scheme to make my portfolio stand out from other ones.
If i end up doing a DVD, each chapter can be one of my works of art.

Im sitting at my neighbors computer typing this because i have NO COMPUTER!

What are your opening ideas for presenting your final portfolio? I really havent thought about that yet. I think that i am going to draw out something since drawing is my forte when i spend time on the piece of work that i am doing. Digital or physical? As in the piece like either a picture of the piece or something that we can actuelly feel? I think that maybe i can make something that can be both ways. What's going to make it stand out? My creativity and effort i put into the piece because of what i said before drawing is my forte!How will you represent your work thus far? I have no idea i will just have to see the out come of what the project is going to look like. And.....what type of work (regardless of your field) matters to you? The type of work that inspires me to the T! No i really like insporation! and i feed off of that. Can you give examples of someone else's work that matters to you? I really like is JIM LAMBIE! he takes his art work to the extreme. I actuelly re created something of his. If you aren't settled on what field you are going to go into, then pick one.

For my final project, I would like to do something physical but none of my work has been digital. I know that for my unit 2, I took some photo's but it was based on the questions I asked the people. So for my unit three, I would like to take photos. I would  like to display them on some sort of powerpoint. Even though I am a graphic design major, I really love Annie Leibovitz and her work as a photographer. 

Yeah.

What are your opening ideas for presenting your final portfolio?

For my final portfolio presentation, I'd like to create something I enjoy. That's all really, just something I can get behind.
The medium used can be either digital or physical, as I said, I just want to enjoy what I'm working with.

It will stand out because it's my work, and normally all of my projects end up making everyone feel awkward.

I enjoy all sorts of "work", from movies to music to visual art. My recent venture into the theater to see Synecdoche, New York went very well. The movie was wonderful and it was a true movie-watching experience, I wasn't able to properly form sentences after watching.

trash baby...trash

Over the time I have spent here, I have developed a particular theme and style. It is a series of japanese styled cartoons of "wild beasts" done through trash, scraps, and such. If I showcase my portfolio, I would create a life sized comic book that will be a 3D "2D". It will be layered and pop out. 

My field is graphic design, but this best relates to illustration through the use of cartoon characters and such. I also am an illustrator, thus reflected through my body of work...also hence the Comic Book theme showing my graphic design. 

Hurdy Gurdy Man!

Ideas for my portfolio? Honestly I haven't thought about it at all yet. I mean, I guess since I have done a song and a movie for two of the projects I would have to present them digitally in someway, considering I have yet to figure out how to show a movie in scrapbook format. So I will probably present it with a website of some sort. Hopefully myspace.com because that is the most professional way I can think of. Just Kidding!

I don't really know how it will stand out. Maybe a cool color scheme! I'll figure something out, I mean computers basically do everything for you nowadays so it won't be too tought.

I think I understand this last question, but I'm not a hundred percent sure. I think all work in any field matters to me. All artwork has an affect on anyone whether you like it or not.

two more days!!! :-)

As of this point right now, all i have on my mind is Thanksgiving break...

I'm not sure what to do for my portfolio, I was thinking about a slide show with music. I haven't used the computer yet so that might be what i end up doing.

I love black and white photos; photography is a hobby of mine. However, i've already done a collage so I cant take pictures for this one. There is just something about black and white photos or films that are intriguing. They can make a typical picture seem so timeless and classic.

There are many artists that inspire me and they are from different fields. it's too hard to just pick one. Frank Lloyd Wright might be the first one that comes to mind. His imagination and his creative ability to design the most stunning homes were really advanced for his time. He built the impossible. He has made a statement with his work and everyone can spot a Wright home.

As for my portfolio, i think the slide show or powerpoint is going to be my best bet this time.

sick sick sick.

I had the worst weekend ever. I started getting sick on wednesday, by saturday it was full blown, and now I'm hiding under my covers on my couch popping penicillin.

Art? All art matters. Even if I don't like it or understand it, it still matters. I'm not going to go into too long of a story, but based on my not so bright past, I have developed a specific philosophy about life and art. I think that the most important thing I can do in my life is positively affect others. If I can make a film that reaches an audience on an emotional level, than I have achieved that goal. My favorite feeling is after I watch a film that really makes me think, cry, or laugh so hard my sides hurt. I love Wes Anderson's work. The cinematography is just so. Everything has a place and everything is in it's place. Aesthetically, his films are easy to watch and at the end I feel as if my life is changed forever.

I don't know what I'm doing for my portfolio presentation. I don't really even know what it's supposed to be like because I missed the last class. I hate being sick. I'll probably put it all in a powerpoint or something.

Have a Happy Thanksgiving Everyone!

p.s I have a note from the health center if you need it Andre

Pilgrims, Native Americans, Turkeys, and Pie!

Well, I have absolutely no idea what I will end up doing for my final portfolio project.

BUT!

For the purpose of this blog response, I am going to propose something that I may try to do. I was thinking I could make a comic strip, including a super hero going through all of the main themes that the units have presented in this class. Since it is our last project, I think it would be nice if I could make it into a real book, not just a single sheet. I could get more accomplished and make it a more thorough account of our experiences in New Millennium.

As for the work that matters to me, I am just going to pinpoint some of my most recent inspirations. I enjoy all of the different art forms, but lately, I've gotten inspiration from Japanese prints, specifically Hokusai. I am working on a project in my fundamentals of fashion project, and these Japanese prints are acting as a huge inspiration for the color palette and the silhouettes of the sketches. Music is important to me as well. I recently found out about a nineties band, US Maple, and I've been intrigued by them for a couple weeks. Perhaps somehow these things will influence my final portfolio project !

Have a good Thanksgiving, everyone! I will not see you in class because I'm leaving early!!

My Audience

I feel I create art for one (or more) of three reasons in mind: entertainment, relating to my audience, or invoke a thought in my audience. With any piece of art it is a conversation between the artist and the viewer. Ignoring the viewer completely is like having a one man conversation. Even if the piece is about myself I am still telling an audience about myself. It would be rude not to take the audience in consideration.

In the film world David Lynch is a prime example. All of his work is symbolic and left up to interpretation. Specifically, his movie Mulholland Drive has numerous theories on the plot. Lynch, will not say what scenes are a dream, which characters are real, if the movie is in chronological order, or anything. In the director's commentary he said himself, "I do not know what the blue box and key mean." There is infact an entire website dedicated to theroies of Mulholland Drive. Which ranges from Schizophrenia, guilt of an aborted baby, a möbius strip theory, and other bizzare interrperations. When looking up the traditional theory of Mulholland Drive one can find numerous versions. Anyone that sees this movie thinks it is something completely different.

This is what I love about art. Two people can look at the exact same thing and see something completely different. Each person extracts what they want from the piece. F0r my project I want to somehow show that. I don't know exactly how I am going to do that yet, but I can't imagine it being straightforward.

5, 6 , 7, 8

Oh man! What to do for my final portfolio assignment!? Mix CD?? Photos?? 

I think for my final assignment I kind of want to do an interpretive dance that expresses all of my work so far. I could go through all the motions of my artist statements and projects with the movements of my body physically. If not a dance something along the lines of movment and theatrics to express my final project. 

Reminder to Andre: I'm missing class on Monday....

 

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Storyboarding

Right now I really do not have any ideas of what to do for my final portfolio. All I know is that it will be something physical because I like when I present that I have something to actually hold when I am talking. Work that I am really into Gladys Perint Palmer she is a fashion illustrator, Brett Helquist he illustrated all of the Lemony Snicket books, and Darek Gogol he has done storyboards onset illustration and many other things for movies like Pirates of the Caribbean, Memoirs of a Geisha, National Treasure, and The Hunchback f Notre Dame. To me I am really interested in what Darek has done because I myself want to be a storyboard artist and or onset illustrator for movies.

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Personally, I would like to do a presentation of my artwork, I'm still not exactly sure how I would do this (Powerpoint would be preferable) however I'm not sure how to get it to become digital.

Over break, I'm going to take digital pictures of all of my artwork that I have stored at home, just in case I decide to present my artwork in that way.

Work that matters to me varies. I like an incredibly wide variety of things; and a lot of things go into something mattering to me. As far as artwork goes, usually I just like things that appeal to me in certain ways, I usually try to look beyond the physical into what the artist was trying to say in creating this piece. I'm going into the fine art field, however in that field there are many things I can concentrate on, and that is a topic for another blog.

the opening idea for a portfolio is wat would u like to put in it. to find your best work first, then your less favorite. it can be both, that way you can have one on the computer and a hard copy, just in cast you lost the file. what make it stand out is how you showcase you work. Represent your work with pride and be proud of what you did. seen i'm going into fashion design may portfolio would focus move on that subject.

For Monday!

For Monday, answer each of the following questions:

I'll give you your final portfolio assignment later, but I want you to start thinking about this now.

What are your opening ideas for presenting your final portfolio?

Digital or physical?

What's going to make it stand out?

How will you represent your work thus far?

And.....what type of work (regardless of your field) matters to you? Can you give examples of someone else's work that matters to you? If you aren't settled on what field you are going to go into, then pick one.

(a little late) proposal for unit 3

My proposal for unit 3 is to "perform" Dana's monologue about the ethical issue of abortions. I believe this is a very common and sensitive issue to most people. The monologue is about a girl who obviously becomes impregnated by a boy who already has a girlfriend. She does not know what to tell her parents, what to do with the pregnancy, or what to tell this boy. It's an important issue, and i think Dana did a very good job writing this monologue. I hope i can justify it by doing a good job of getting it across to the class.

Introductions

I hope that this helps you with your writing. This is a really short explanation of what your introduction should consist of. We can talk about this more later if you think that it would help you out.

How to frame a problem:

Think of your introduction as something to motivate your reader to want to look at your artwork and to read the rest of your artist statement. This not only goes for artist statement, but for other papers that you’ll need to write in your life. Your introduction should establish a problem and should have four parts: a) stasis; b) destabilizer; c) consequences; and d) stability.

Stasis
This should be something that everyone agrees on because you need to draw your reader in. Stasis doesn’t imply background information. For our purposes, stasis and background information are opposites. Background information is something you give readers so that they can build on it. To be effective, it has to stay stable.

On the other hand, stasis is ironic. It works as motivation to readers to read your statement/paper or to look at your work only if readers come to see that what they thought was stable is NOT stable. This statement is the basis for instability, tension, or uncertainty in your statement.

For example: You could state what your ethical dilemma you’re grasping with is here.

Destabilizer

In this section you need to motivate your reader to care about problems that the readers didn’t even know existed. That’s why you need to destabilize your stasis statement. Here, you identify some idea that the readers get stability from. You then de-stabilize the idea and create the sense that something is wrong. In effect, you create a deeper problem: their deeper problem is that they didn’t even understand a that they had a problem.

For example: Why is the ethnical dilemma you’re grappling with a problem?

Consequences
This explains why it’s important that you look at this problem. This is the cost of leaving whatever you made unstable in your destabilizing statement. What are the consequences of keeping your destabilizing statement unstable? What are the benefits of your work?

For example: Why is it so important that your statement/artwork deals with this problem? What are the consequences of not examining this problem.

Stability
This is your thesis. This should tell the reader how your work addresses the specific problem that you have created.

For example: How does your work grapple with this dilemma? What is your argument or stance on this issue?

After your introduction you can start to provide explanations about your work, your choices, and background to your dilemma.

More Stuff from the Portfolio Center

Your marketing, PR, advertising, design, interactive and management students are invited to attend:

ADSTOCK Career Advice, Networking & Leadership Conference

Thursday, November 20th
1104 S Wabash, 8th Floor



8:30AM – 9:00AM

Registration and continental breakfast



9:00AM – 9:30 AM

ADSTOCK welcome and keynote presentation



9:30AM – 12:00PM

Part A: Advising Session / Industry professionals will meet with students in a group brainstorming session to discuss the industry and offer career advice. Open to all students.



720 & Religion

A.J. Wright & Associates

Chicago Bulls

Chicago Lighthouse

Flair Communications

Edye Deloch Hughes (freelance consultant, creative director)

Marketing Werks

Noreen Heron & Associates

Ogilvy

Ruder Finn

Starcom



Part B: Portfolio Reviews / Industry professionals will meet with students one-on-one to review work and give advice on portfolio presentation. Juniors, seniors, grad students and recent alumni are eligible for the reviews. Call 312.369.7280 to sign up.



Company: Reviewing:

Arment Dietrich public relations

Artisan Talent print design, web design (including flash) & copywriting

Bandwidth Marketing advertising

Narciso Carlos (freelance art director) art direction

Gen Art public relations, marketing, & event management

GMR Marketing, LLC. marketing

Golin Harris public relations

Manuela Guidi, LLC art direction, copywriting & web design

TeamWorks Media public relations

rEvolution public relations & sports marketing

Walker Sands Communication public relations





12:00PM– 1:00PM

Networking Session and Lunch



Adstock is sponsored by the Marketing Communication Department in collaboration with the Portfolio Center







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Mercedes Cooper | Communications Coordinator | Portfolio Center @ Columbia College

P: 312.369.8612 | E: mcooper@colum.edu

See what's up with portfolios at www.colum.edu/portfolio

Fwd: This Week at the Portfolio Center

Hello faculty,

You and your students are invited to attend any of the below sessions. Classes welcome…

All sessions will take place in 623 S. Wabash, room 307

Next Week at the Portfolio Center:

WED Nov. 19 | Portfolios for Filmmakers | 5PM

Reels, websites, press kits—it’s all about how you present your best work. We’ll show various examples of deliverable formats filmmakers can use to promote their talent through a “portfolio.” Open to all Columbia College students. Produced as part of the Producer’s Guild of Columbia Workshop Series.

THURS Nov. 20 | Weisman Award Application Info | 3PM

Last information session for students to ask specific questions about applications for the Albert P. Weisman Award. This matching grant provides funding, up to $4000, to a limited number of undergraduate (60 credit hours or more) and graduate students in a variety of media for the completion of an advanced project.

Weisman Award application deadline is Friday, December 12.

FRI Nov. 21 | Contracts & Copyrights 101 | 11AM

Who owns your work? On Friday, November 21 at 11AM we’ll give you the scoop on how to protect your intellectual property from being ripped of as well as how to negotiate contracts that work in your favor. This session is a must for anyone considering freelancing, commissioning work or publishing work online.

See what's up with portfolios at www.colum.edu/portfolio

Inheriting Money

Danny Sawyer
Proposal 3
For my third project, I am going to make some kind of visual art. It will follow dilemma 1 for option 2. I will create an image that will show Sylvester turning into his ancestor by inheriting the unfair wealth. Sylvester is no different from his ancestor if he keeps the money. He does not have the right to inherit the money because the money was technical never his ancestor’s money. I expect my audience to understand that the character in the image is a criminal. How he got this title maybe unclear, but hopefully the audience will be able to notice what he has done is wrong.

Ouch.

Here are my questions that were supposed to be for the last class (I'm not sure how I forgot to turn those in ?)

1. Do you think Okonko is anti-feminist because he believes that is what is expected of him, or do you think he truly feels he is superior as a male? Is this anti-feminist custom ethical?

2. Why do you think Nwoye is easily able to abandon the beliefs he was raised with?


I will not be in class today because my body hurts, thanks to my friend, Jen.
I know we are supposed to be prepared to make comments about other peoples' proposals. I will leave them here on the blog instead of in class.
I will also be ready to present by Monday.
See you all Monday.

Unit 3 Project Proposal

For the Unit 3 project dealing with an ethical dilemma I am going to create a short film. The film will fulfill the role of the project as well as propose an ethical question to the character involved. I plan to shoot entirely using my point and shoot camera and have not decided whether or not to include sound. I will be the sole actor, editor, and creator of this piece. Any music involved will be my decision and I will keep the film under 10 minutes.

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My proposal for our Unit 3 portfolio project is that I will respond to Option 2, a sample dilemma, with a response and a drawing. At this moment I am currently deciding on which option to do, but I have narrowed it down to options 1 or 2. Option 1 being the Robber Baron story and Option 2 being Singapore's answer to drug problems. Because this project seems to be more of a writing project I will write my artist's statement answering this question; but I then plan to create a drawing of the famous statue with the justice scales. I will change this drawing though to be more represenetative of the individual dilemma: such as changing the statue from the woman holding the scales to the robber baron's relative, with both choices in each side of the scale.
I think in both dilemma's there are deep moral issues at stake. For me the first choice, yes the money was gained by illegitimate means, but I was not the younger relative who did this to get the money; so why should he suffer for what his older relatives did? And in the Singapore case, while Singapot may have a significantly lower crime rate because of their strict ways of dealing with their drug problems, they are taking many human lives, which may be considered excessive. In the Singapore case human lives are at stake! Singapore will convict someone of just owning keys to a place in which drugs are stored at, which can cause a person to lose their life!
I believe that my idea for my drawing is a strong one because it will literally show the two issues at stake in an image that people have seen before. Everybody knows the statue holding the two scales, so it should be easy for people to see my symbolism.

Things Fall Apart Questions

If you didn't give me your questions about Things Fall Apart in class, then you should post them here asap.

Proposal 3 (American Nazi Party Column)

For my third project in New Millennium Studies I would like to make a poster protesting the ban on the American Nazi column. Although the column is about a topic the majority of Americans think is ethically wrong the author still should have a voice. Giving the people the right to share their opinions does not mean that it will encourage a surge of hate crimes.

The American government and numerous other established make threats to specific people constantly without consequences. In the past 8 years, the U.S. government has signed death certificates for Osama Bin Laden and other terrorists without a trial needed. After President George W. Bush was asked if the the troop surge would increase violence he said, "Bring it on." The president of the United States encouraged violence, but the media will not censor his opinion. George H. W. Bush was not censored in 1989 when he stated, "I will never apologize for the United States of America. I don't care what the facts are." Aren't these statements intended to create hate? So why do we censor anyone's opinion? I do not agree with the author's view or think that his article is a valid arguement, but the author has the right to publish that article. He is sharing his views without causing physical harm to any person or breaking the law.

If the article was published the majority of readers would think down upon him and can't believe that his views still exist. Some people would act on this fact and try to change the world. I believe this article would do more good than harm. People would become aware of the hate that still exists and attempt to teach tolerance. Not only that, but if you start censoring one person where do you stop? Pro Isreal? US Impearialism? Republicans? Vegeterians? I want to make the choice on what I believe is wrong.

blood shed, a life lost

When thinking about major ethical decisions one in particular comes to mind. Just a little background of the story: A really close friend of the family, Nick Lenhart, was going through a real rough time in his life about four years ago. He ran off to Vegas and came home as a married man. We had never met or even heard of this woman. We all had to get to know her on Christmas Eve and of course she sucked up to the kids, playing games and giving them candy. I didn't trust her at all. She was an alcoholic and she kicked in Nick right back into his old habits. He too, started drinking a lot. One night the two of them went out to a nearby bar and had a few drinks. Tracy, the wife, went home before Nick and went to bed, she had to get up early in the morning. Nick came home around 2:30 and started dragging Tracy out of bed and yelling at her (this is how she told the story-Nick was a rude, angry drunk) Nick trashed the house and told her to pack her bags and get out. She did as he said and packed a few things and left. she walked to the gas station down the street and used the pay phone (he snapped her cell phone in half) to call his parents to get him to calm down and also called the police. By the time the police had arrived Nick had blocaded all the doors and windows and set up homemade flamethrowers with arosal cans and gasoline and lighters. He had truly lost it. The police tried to come in from the balcony where Nick was standing yelling at Tracy. An Orland Park cop climbed up the ladder and attempted to step over the railing. Nick got in his face and denied him entry. Nick picked up the arosal can and his lighter and said that he poured gasoline all over his condo and that he would set it on fire if they dont back off. Meanwhile, another cop made it into the condo and was coming to help out the cop on the balcony. His parents were walking up to the condo when they heard shots being fired. They knew right away that there boy was killed. Nick came at the cop on the balcony and the cop fired his gun. Nick stumbled back towards the other cop inside and he too shot him. Two bullets went through his chest and killed him right there in his living room. I know Nick was acting crazy and he was drunk. He was causing domestic violence and tracy and nick were fighting. Did they have to take his life? They were armed with tazors, why didnt they use those? They could have found other ways to take control of the situation. Was this the right choice? Was taking a man's life the best thing to do in this situation? How has Nick's friends and families lives changed because of this one officer's decision to fire? How has the cop's life changed, maybe this was the first man he has ever killed. I dont think it was the right choice.

I plan on writing a newspaper article on this particular event. asking the unit 3 ethical questions and hoping to work out some frustration reguarding this situation.

Sort of Lame...

For our third portfolio project of the year, I was thinking of trying something fairly foreign to me. Perhaps I could write a short story. I have obviously written my share of stories throughout elementary school, but once I got to high school, it was all research papers. I cannot remember the last time I tried to write an actual story. Ethics will be the perfect core theme for a short story. I have brainstormed a few ideas, and I was thinking I could make a sort of satirical tale about people from tribes coming to America and attempting to change our customs. I think that by taking some of the situations we have been presented with, like the video about the evangelicals going to the South American tribe’s land, and flipping the situation, the class will be able to better judge the ethical justification of the situations. I have also considered what groups of people I will focus on in my story. For fear of seeming to single out religious groups, I will have tell the story from people from all different backgrounds: male, female, religious or not, high-income, low-income, etc. If I am able to represent as many people as possible, then I think the message of the story will be more successful. As for a tribe to use as the “invaders,” I was going to do a little bit of research to make the best decision. I want to make sure I stay true to the customs of whichever group of people I choose to have come to America and attempt to push their customs upon us. I think that if I can combine the element of satire with questionable ethics, I could have a very successful story.

The Game

For my project I am going to do a game board that is focused on the dilemma where, “some pharmacists have refused to fill birth-control prescriptions, arguing that dispensing the products violates their personal moral or religious beliefs. Can pharmacists ethically refuse to fill a prescription?”
Throughout the game the players will be challenged with different questions that will decide their fate. All the questions will have to do with the ethical dilemma above. I believe that this message matters because some people want to live their lives their own way, but others for some reason think that they can tell those people how to live their lives because of the way that they were brought up. Everyone is allowed to have their own opinions, but there is a fine line that people should not cross, but for some reason it is crossed more than it should. When in reality they do not have the right, or do they? Everyone has a choice, and every choice that anyone makes affects at least one other person than themselves.
I would hope that my classmates will understand the meaning behind my game. I expect that they will get it because of how their choices in the game affect themselves. The questions are going to be rather straight forward and to the point with only two choices for the player to pick from. Whoever makes it to the finish obviously wins the game.

B.C

Kristina Kastl
NMS
pro 3.

Some pharmacists have refused to fill birth-control prescriptions, arguing that dispensing the products violates their personal moral or religious beliefs. Can a pharmacist ethically refused to fill a prescription? I believe that pharmacists have the right to refuse filling a prescription. Pharmacists should not be forced to fill prescriptions on the job. Everyone has their own religious freedom in the United Sates. According, the US Constitution allows for freedom to have the expression of religion and gives anyone the right to respect their religion and go about their beliefs. Everyone else has freedom of speech. For example, unfortunately porno is allowed because it is considered freedom of speech.
Another point is the open expression of religion in public places is allowed all over the US. Different religions and ethnicities have to respect their own culture’s beliefs and customs. Muslims have to wear turbans or the Jews wear their beanies to work and this is allowed at work, even though people are not allowed to wear a baseball cap on the job. Another religious point is Muslims have to pray at certain times of the day and everyday and employers have to allow time for this prayer activity and respect their religion. On Ash Wednesday Catholics have a religious ceremony that marks their foreheads with ashes. These Catholics can come to work with ashes on their forehead. Employers also do not force Catholics to eat meat on Friday during Lent.
The third point is the internal emotional conflict of doing something that you think is wrong. The pharmacist is being angry at the Pharmacy for being forced into filling the prescription. Also the pharmacist feels guilty about going against his religious beliefs. The pharmacist may also feel disgusted at the people filling the birth-control prescriptions. This can all cause the pharmacist to be stressed out.
I plan to capture these emotions and inequalities in a poem as it would be written by a pharmacist who feels trapped by his religious beliefs and his job activities.

Dana's Proposal for Unit 3

Dana Diederich

New Millennium Studies

Unit 3 Project Proposal 

11.10.08

                            For the unit three project I plan on writing a a series of monologues touching on ethical issues. The message of the each monologue will be on but not limited to the choices and thoughts facing people through out history. They will relate and touch on the subjects of abortion, race, drugs, mental health and religion. My goal would be to create some kind of play-write with the collaboration of famous monologues from movies and other plays and famous speeches throughout history. Together I believe I could show each monologue in a truer state relating to some kind of historic event or popular movie of the time. But to show also over a period of time that society in some way still faces the same ethical dilemmas just maybe in a new light. That even though times have changes somethings and ideas still exist in this world.

               The meaning I’m hoping to covey from each monologue is to simply show a real situation with real thoughts and people that they where inspired by. I want the audience to see and understand the hard decisions and the two sided views that come from them. I want the audience to see and hear the reasoning behind choices and what motivates choices of ethics. I don’t ever really want the monologues to straight up explain the ethical dilemma the person is facing but to just see a character dealing with something in their lives.

                  I’m hoping I can interview real people who have faced some very hard ethical dilemmas and be inspired by their experiences to write. I also will use some of the things I have encountered in my life as inspiration. The one thing I hope this doesn’t turn into is some after school special on the dangers of life with stereotypes and informational packet after the viewing.

An Ethical Inspiration...maybe

I should be reading my book for class....

About a two years ago my high school did a play called “The Peoples Temple”, it was the story of Jim Jones and the mass suicides of 909 people in 1978. It was probably one of the most moving and depressing plays I have ever seen. I remember my friends who where in the play being really depressed after they had closed it. But I started thinking about it this afternoon while I was writing my unit three proposal. I stumbled upon a PBS movie called “Jonestown: The Life and Death Of Peoples Temple”. After watching I thought of some ethical questions that where inspired by the movie, but also inspired some aspects of my project.

So if your looking for something to watch or looking for inspiration like me here you go!

Ethical Questions;

-Although we have freedom of religion and the freedom to express that religion, is there ever a moment to draw a line when facing the ideas of cult and brainwashing?  If so how does one prove brainwashing and that their is a cult, couldn’t one just say they are a group of people who live with the same ideas and moral vales? 

-Could the people of Jonestown been saved or intervened quicker or where they within their rights up until the moment they committed mass suicide? 

-Jim Jones intentions where to change the world, did he?

I can't get the video to post so heres the link for the movie 

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3625536419231928674 

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Sorry Andre, my printer is broken, and unless you want me to write out a copy for you, my two questions will be here.

1. Is it right for the white men to retaliate, to the death of one of their own, by killing the tribesmen?

2. The back of the book describes the plot as "Okonkwo's fall from grace", do you think this is because he is realizing a difference in moral opinions?

For Monday

Bring two ethical questions relating to what you have read so far in Things Fall Apart.

Bring your book to class.

No other blog assignment due for Monday.

For your next projects!

Need cheap, neat materials for your last two portfolios (or anything for that matter)? Where do you go when you're a broke student? Thrift stores!

Arc Thrift: 3345 N. Lincoln Ave (off the Paulina Brown Line stop) and 1302 N. Milwaukee Ave. (off the Division Blue Line stop)

Unique: There are tons of these, but, my personal favorite is 5040 S. Kedzie (Might I recommend bribing someone with a car?)

Village Thrift: 2043 W Roscoe and on Milwaukee Ave just west of Western (and the Western Blue Line stop)

Family Thrift: just a little further west on Milwaukee past Village

There are plenty more that can be found with a simple google search, but these are some highlights. Happy hunting.

They both give me the Chills

"Triumph of the Will" was really weird to watch, it honestly was kind of scary to me, how many people were brainwashed. Honestly though, I don't think that the film was intended as propaganda, because at the time, I don't believe anyone knew of his evil intentions, I could be completely wrong though. It was still early before anything had happened, so I think the filmmaker really was trying to capture exactly what was happening how it was. This is why she may have used shots and angles that made Adolf Hitler look all-powerful and mighty, like a savior sent for the German people, because at that time, to the people, that is exactly what he was. The filmmaker was merely trying to capture this exactly how it was, not to try and get people on the Nazi Wagon.

"Night and Fog" on the other hand, was scary in it's own sense, I think anyone that has watched it can figure out why. Because it shows the reality and effects of Hitler's reign, it can really smack the audience across the face. The music an narrator were both very boring and plain to me, I think this was somewhat intentional considering that the movie was offering nothing but the plain facts. The shots were long and drawn out to really let the horrifying images sink in, and to let the audience's imaginations run wild about what was really happening there.

Both of these movies had similar ways that the movie was shot, for example the long drawn out shots. These were both to let the images and impact of the images sink in to the audience's mind. Both were meant to leave different impacts on the audience, but the same technique was used to do this. Overall, I think both of the films were shot very similarly in many ways, but to get across a different point.

Documentary, not so much.

I don't think it would have been possible for Triumph to be a mere documentary. Hitler employed Leni for a reason. There were very specific outlines and expectations for the film. Together, they knew exactly what this film was going to say to audiences. Hitler, Germany, the 3rd Reich, Revitalization, Hope and Nationalism were all showcased in a specific manner to seem a certain way. Hitler was the answer for Germany. He promised to bring them back to the heights they once were at and deserve to be again. They way this film was made and the affect that it had make it impossible to be a mere documentary. I admire Leni for her film making skills which were revolutionary at the time. I do however get the creeps watching it, even though I've seen it multiple times. I do think it is easer to stomach than Night and Fog. The imagery specifically with dead people with open eyes and teeth visible really gets me. Schindler's list also brings waterworks for me. I understand that even though these films are hard to watch sometimes, they're important to see. If you don't know the past and learn from other's mistakes we'll just keep making them.

skillet nation.

As some of you may be aware, I was not in class on Monday.

So instead of answering questions- I plan on telling you where I was instead. On Monday I left Chicago with my mom and brother to go to Muncie, Indiana. The reason for this was because my uncle was in the election to keep his position as the Circuit Court 5 judge. 

We arrived in Muncie around 10:00p.m. The following morning, we woke up at 5:00 a.m and headed to the polls.  My cousin and I went to the polls where the Ball State students were told to go. I basically got to talk to kids all day about how if they got into trouble on campus my uncle would be the one who would handle their case. eE also talked about how both of cousins are in college and that he understands that kids make stupid mistakes. Most of the students didn't realize even though they were not from Muncie, they could still vote for local politicians. Most of the students were only there to vote for the president. Unfortunately, I think that most of the students pressed the straight Democratic ticket button because my uncle lost the election.

So after the election stuff was over, I went to my friends house just to hang out. They don't have tv so I didn't get to watch the excitement.  On my way home I called Alex to find out what the homework was. He had no idea, so when I got home I decided that I should at least type this up! 

See you guys in class! 

Joyous music...?

"Triumph of the Will" and "Night and Fog" were two of the same movies, except they came from the opposite spectrums. The picture, the numerous shots and angles, music choice, and approach was all the same; the difference was that one were Pro-Nazi's while the other Anti-Nazi's. Each had extreme messages showing how dramatically horrible the Nazi's were while other emphasized the great joy and glory. They used extreme shots after extreme shots of happy individuals with joyous music, and on the flip side horrific piles of dead individuals with nulling music. 

The Pro-Nazi video was surely a propaganda video because all it did was emphasize how happy it was to serve. They showed clips after clips of male bonding and fun and glorified the troops. If it was a documentary, it would have shown the beginning to end story; this would be enrolling, learning, killing, torturing, and etc. It would have to show the truth and remove the cheerful and glorious music. 

I just woke up, ok

Current State of Mind: Tired

             The one thing I found really interesting about the films was the use of music. I believe music creates setting and feeling for movies and documentaries. I really liked how in the first movie the music was very proud. It was very fitting for the images of people praising Hitler and his army. At the time thats how the german people felt about him. It really gave you an idea of how completely clueless people where to what was really going on. For the viewer it almost made you sad and anger by the irony that the music was giving the images of Hitler. 

     Yes, the second movie was stomach hurting but the music was nice and numbing. The music in the second film was very low and constant. It didn't really change tempo and it was almost like it wasn't there. Just something to over lay on to the shots so not to have to much silence in the movie. I liked the music in this film because it didn't really make me interoperate the shots any different from what they where. Died people every where.

sick to my stomach

I dont know why we picked those films...we should have picked the other one. Watching the Triumph film it made me kind of angry with Hitler and the Nazis he trained. He brainwashed the German population and gave them false hope for a better life in Germany. He came in like he was an almighty God here to be their savior. Instead he put any non-aryan race through hell and torchured them for kicks and giggles. In the Night and Fog film, it made me sick to my stomach, i needed to put my head down. I took a whole class on the Holocaust in high school and watched many movies and saw tons of pictures...i didnt want to see that again. The music tried to almost "sugar coat" what was really happening in the footage and pictures on the screen. The French narrator just didnt fit the film, either one from a Jewish or German community would have been better. It would have seemed more personal. From the burning bodies to the decapatated corpses, the tiny baracks to the crematories and gas chambers, what these family went through cant even be imagined. It was a very emotional film and the Triumph film was made to stir up emotion as well but also to show the mask that Hitler put on while he and his supporters ruined innocent lifes.

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I believe that the film techniques in Triumph of the Will, were not really meant to show Hitler as a god, and I also believe that the film was NOT a propaganda film. I think that because the film was based on the Nuremberg Rallies, and because of what came out of those rallies, is why people thing that it is a propaganda film. The other week I watched the documentary, Woodstock, about the Woodstock 1969 music festival, and after doing a little research on the movie I found an interesting quote by the director Michael Wadleigh. He said: "Either this is going to turn into a riot, and be a documentary about how and why it happened, or this will be a documentary on one of the greatest things to ever happen." I think director Leni Riefenstahl had the same idea. Remember this is early 1930's while Hitler was coming to power, it was not known what he would do with the power he would gain, and you have to realize that even though his regieme turned out to be for evil, he empowered a nation, just like Barack Obama did during his presidental campaign. While I'm not comparing Obama to Hilter, I'm saying that they both did their job politically. It's sad, but try to play devil's advocate for a minute and imagine what Hitler could have done for good with the political power he had; everybody saw how many people were at the Nuremburg rallies, its obvious that if Hitler had been different, Germany as a whole could have gone a very different way.

Thanks, Youtube

I was not in class on Monday, but I was able to watch the documentaries thanks to Youtube :)

I think the objectives of the two videos are completely different. "Triumph" was made to document the important political figure that Hitler was and the way in which he was able to rally together so many Germans. Whether you argue that it was propaganda as well or not, the fact is that the director wanted to show the facts. She wanted to show what was happening in Germany at that time.
"Night and Fog" has more of an emotional appeal to it. It's not simply documenting what happened, it is trying to get a reaction out of you based on how the Jewish population was treated.
I thought overall, both of the films were very interesting, but "Night and Fog" was more disturbing to me.

objectivity

The objectives of these two films differ profoundly.
I believe the first film we watched, "Triumph of the Will," was originally created to show Adolph Hitler as a hero. Maybe even God-like. The objective of the first film
The second film we watched, "Night and Fog," had the complete opposite approach. Hitler was depicted as a monster, which he defiantly should be. I'm sure whoever made the second film had no fear of releasing it because the war was over. If it was released during the war, they probably would have been killed.

paul is currently listening to:
King Crimson- Three of a Perfect Pair

Propaganda

Can anyone really name a film/TV show that is not propaganda? Unless you are watching CSPAN or a debate nearly every piece has a motive to it. How can't it? I can even look at my Writing and Rhetoric text book. It's full essays and excerpts from very liberal to very conservative individuals, racists and slaves, politicians and anarchists. Sure, it does provide both sides of the argument, but someone chose which essays and such to put in. The editors chose what was important for me to read. Isn't that a motive?

Triumph and Will was intended to look as a special day in Germany where a politician saves the population from an economic tragedy There wasn't somber music heard or acts of genocide seen.. The medium close ups (MCU) of Hitler were shot either at his height or slightly below. So we either have a feeling that he is strong and powerful, but down to Earth. The crowd shots contain the most cuts to replicate the idea of an endless crowd to a long motorcade. Whenever Hitler speaks or passes by onlookers stare up and are completely focused. Everyone takes in what he says and believes it.

Night and Fog we see the horrors of the holocaust. Dead bodies, high angled shots to make the victims look even more miserable. Fewer cuts to expose the audience to the horrors longer. It's almost like getting back at the Nazis by making the audience suffer. The audience can wonder how could anyone not see that horrible acts committed. This film gives Germany a terrible reputation and paints every Nazi or Nazi collaborator as a killer.

Neither one of these films are propaganda, but each one has a motive on how the audience should feel about a topic. I feel that propaganda doesn't really exist, but it is more of an insult to someone you disagree with. For the past 8 years, "I have said Fox news is propaganda. How could anyone believe what they say?" Fox news takes the same information as another news station, but gives it a little slaint to further their motives. I am positive, ABC, CBS, NBC, etc. do the exact same thing. It is not a bad thing, one just has to realize it.

weird

Both movies I thought were creepy. The first one just showed how the people thought that Hitler was their savior. Someone that was going to get them out of a hard time. Then in the second movie it showed the destruction that Hitler (their supposed savior) caused. I just think that it is disgusting how power can get into someones head like that. At first he has these plans to rebuild Germany,and then he just lost it with I do not know if it was the fact that he had so much power or was it because he was over come with fear.

Documentary totally

“Triumph of the Will” may have been used as a propaganda film back then, but I believe its a documentary. I think the film maker's intentions were to capture that important moment from that time. She showed what she saw, nothing more. "To me the film wasn't about politics, it was an event." - Leni Riefenstahl

Alain Resnais!

When I initially heard you state the name of the director who did "Night and Fog" I KNEW that I recognized it. Upon asking you to restate the name you said something I no longer recognized.

Needless to say upon returning back to my dorm I was inspired to find out more about the creator. As it turned out he directed a film "Last Year In Marienbad" I had recently watched. I knew that I recognized the man's voice narrating or at least the style of narration in the film (though apparent in a lot French New-wave). "Last Year In Marienbad" is a film I would ABSOLUTELY recommend. The style of shooting and narrative of the film are incredibly well done, and if you view it you'll know what I'm talking about (think a French, older, David Lynch).

Getting back to the topic. .

"Night and Fog", and "Triumph of the Will" are both two powerful films. While Triumph is a documentary, it's easy to see why the film is labeled as propaganda. Of course it's going to get slumped in, the documentary is chronicling the life of a political power and the rise of what appeared as something that would bring prosperity to Germany (Deütschland!). If Reifenstahl wanted to make an accurate documentary she would have had to complete it and tell the whole story, especially if she wanted to appear unbiased. Knowing that it was completed during the Nazi period means she perhaps had to have the film OK'd beforehand, leading me to believe that no matter what she may have created, it would have had a nazi tilt to it. Due to these things we see the film as propaganda to one of the worst political movements in all of history.

Accordingly, "Night and Fog" seconds that notion. The film is a collage of battered victims and landscapes that stand where horrible events once occurred. Accompanied by music and narration the film's images are offset to the viewer, allowing them to objectively view the brutality of the Nazis and numb the images displayed. I see very many re-occurrences in the cinematography of "Night and Fog" and "Last Year In Marienbad" and both adhere to a new age in film making brought upon by the French.

Other things that I've enjoyed recently:

Last Year In Marienbad:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0054632/

Pierrot Le Fou:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059592/

Interesting article involving Lil' Wayne and teaching in New Orleans:
http://www.oxfordamericanmag.com/content.cfm?ArticleID=390

This music video:
http://www.escycle.com/videos/Lau_Nau_Painovoimaavaloa.mp4

hitler and sh*t

I think  Night and Fog was very interesting, but freaking disgusting. I know Ivan and i were squirming in our chairs during all the shots of the the gouged eye sockets, the burning flesh, and the skeleton corpses. The severed body parts didn't really do much for us either. Other than that i think the film was very well shot, but had a creepy sense to it not only because of the constant theme of brutality, scandal, torture, and murder; but the disgustingly happy music playing in the background. As if it's going to make us smile and say "gee whiz! that's a great pit of burning bodies!". However, i still felt the need to puke under the table through the duration of the film. It really made me remember why Hitler, though he had an awesome mustache, was a horrible excuse for a human being. 

On a lighter note,

The first movie was a lot less sickening in the physical form. It was more mentally horrifying to think that one man could brainwash all of those people into becoming his monkeys. He made all of those civilians believe in him and his promises while he killed millions of innocent people on his free time, and behind the backs of his "people".

I saw a movie like this one once in high school and it showed a segment about 20 seconds long of the SS marching with their Nazi flags with burning torches at the top in the form of a swastika. You can't tell me that's not creepy. 

the film techniques in “Triumph of the Will” different from the techniques used in the making of “Night and Fog by the way the movie was shot and how the music was played in it. the camera anlge made the view feel like you were there at that time. it gave a bird view of what happen.

Triumph of the Will/Night and Fog Questions

For Wednesday, (for full credit) I want you to: 1) do one of your own posts; and 2) comment on at least one other person's post.

Your blog posts for Wednesday should touch on one or more of the following questions:


How do the film techniques in “Triumph of the Will” differ from the techniques used in the making of “Night and Fog?” “Night and Fog” was the film that we watched during the second class.

Specifically, how do these films employ the use of music, camera angels, edits?

How do the objectives of the films differ?

Some people argue that “Triumph of the Will” is a propaganda film while others argue that is a documentary because it was made up of “actual” footage of the Nazi Nuremburg rallies. How would you categorize it and why?

If you argue that "Triumph of the Will" was a propaganda film, then what could Leni Riefenstahl have done differently in order for this to be a documentary? Would it have been possible for this to be a mere documentary and not a propaganda film?

Many people argue that “Triumph of the Will” aesteticized politics: it made the Nazi movement look beautiful. Does “Night and Fog” de-aesteticize politics and, therefore, war?

Feel free to draw on this passage of “The Work of Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction” by Walter Benjamin.

“All efforts to render politics aesthetic culminate in one thing: war. War and war only can set a goal for mass movements on the largest scale while respecting the traditional property system. This is the political formula for the situation. The technological formula may be stated as follows: Only war makes it possible to mobilize all of today's technical resources while maintaining the property system. It goes without saying that the Fascist apotheosis of war does not employ such arguments. Still, Marinetti says in his manifesto on the Ethiopian colonial war: "For twenty- seven years we Futurists have rebelled against the branding of war as antiaesthetic.... Accordingly we state: ... War is beautiful because it establishes man's dominion over the subjugated machinery by means of gas masks, terrifying megaphones, flame throwers, and small tanks. War is beautiful because it initiates the dreamt-of metalization of the human body. War is beautiful because it enriches a flowering meadow with the fiery orchids of machine guns. War is beautiful because it combines the gunfire, the cannonades, the cease-fire, the scents, and the stench of putrefaction into a symphony. War is beautiful because it creates new architecture, like that of the big tanks, the geometrical formation flights, the smoke spirals from burning villages, and many others.... Poets and artists of Futurism! ... remember these principles of an aesthetics of war so that your struggle for a new literature and a new graphic art . . . may be illumined by them!"”

--Walter Benjamin, 1937

For you own edification, I highly recommend you reading this entire article. It’s a difficult read, but very influential. The article can be found here:

http://web.bentley.edu/empl/c/rcrooks/toolbox/common_knowledge/general_communication/benjamin.html

Feel free to use excerpts from the following video about Leni Riefenstahl:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5E36mdHE3w

Super Inuit

One thing that I think is being overlooked in discussing the ways of the Inuit, is the comparison of their culture to ours.

Of course things they do may be far opposite from the things we do as Americans, but keep in mind, Americans are weird people as well. At least just the way I see them.

The Nacirema article we read in class that one day helps back this up, actually it fully supports my point. Our "practices" and "rituals" are looked upon as very very different if an Eskimo were to see us on our daily routines.

We are not "better" people because we have a higher value for life in America, we just have different morals. No race or culture is better than another, just different about how we go about things.

People may be disgusted with how Inuits go about their lives, but to be honest, looking at the practices of some Americans, I am disgusted by the things we do, and the things we idolize, it's ridiculous some of the time. Of course this does not apply to the entire population, but in no way are we allowed to say we are "better" than anyone else, because this is a common misconception among many Americans today.

Steven Pinker

Steven Pinker claims to sum up the human mind in 5 words, "Brain waves fire in patterns." Pinker believes that a moral code is placed in a through evolution, just like how alcoholism, diabetes, or cancer seem to run in families. What about our moral code? I imagine most people completely and utterly disagree with Pinker, I know I do. But thinking about it in some situations isn't all that crazy. Quiet kids usually have quiet parents. Assholes don't fall far from the tree. Left brain parents usually have left brain kids. Right brain parents usually have right brain kids. So why not our morals? In Pinker's book, A Blank Slate, he talks about our parents that have a phobia or a quality in a field tend to pass it on to our kids. Looking at my family personally, my mother's side is full of contractors, dry-wallers, the fix-it guy. My dad's side, computer programmers, stay at home moms, cubicle jobs.

If we assume Pinker is correct, is it right to try to change someone? When one would have to fundamentally believe that their brain is hardwired to think that way?

The Moral Instinct by Steven Pinker

Kill a baby

1. What challenge does the case of Eskimo behavior present to the study of ethics?

(I understand this is a popular issue, but when I watched the video I was really intrigued.)

 

The challenge presented in this case is that it is hard for people in our society to perceive their behavior when their society is on the opposite spectrum, especially on terms of survival. As negative as it sounds, I feel I can say I understand why they would kill the individuals and could justify it is acceptable in their world. 

What becomes difficult is understanding their culture and accepting that because their culture is secluded and isolated from the rest of the world. They live in a world where they do not have the knowledge, education, tools and instruments,and resource to take care of those individuals who will bring their tribe down. They are survivors and hunters; if one is weak, the tribe is weak. Each individual contributes and if individuals fail to contribute, then the tribe falls apart. Their means to kill a baby is by means to keep the tribe strong and at its best so it can survive. 

The world will argue that it is inhumane and so do I. No person has the right to take life. In there world I could understand and see the justifcation, but I do not believe it is right. 

# 7

I’m going to take a stab at question number 7.

         The author believes there is some moral rules that all societies will have in common, because they factor in the existence for the society to live. That their are rules in place against lying for example. If people lied all the time a society could not function because it would be basing its motives on false accusations. If people wanted to learn how to farm and was told how to start fire, that would get them no where.(Bad example I know) It could also lead to a society of distrust and people banning away to live on their own or live a harder more independent life. People then would not live in a society they would live alone. So don’t lye people its bad karma!

ethics, schmethics

I know that the others have focused on the same question about the ethical dilemma presented by the Inuits or the South American tribe from the video, but I think there's just so many issues with it to be brought up, that it's okay that I'm focusing on that question, too.

That said, I wanted to focus more on the video we watched. I was obviously disturbed at the idea of killing an innocent child. Personally, I could not imagine taking part of that custom. At the same time, I found myself questioning the ethical justification of the evangelicals invading the tribe and interfering in their lifestyle. The fact that they saved that little girls life is really excellent, but you also have to ask yourself if that was their place. The tribe has its own traditions and customs that it has survived on for years and years, and while we may not agree or understand some of them, we cannot thrust our beliefs and opinions on them. I don't want them to kill their children either... I think that is a horrible thing, but I don't know if the evangelicals, especially with their religious intentions, have the right to interfere.

I'd like to hear what you think about that situation. I keep questioning my own opinion, because once I start writing that we shouldn't interfere with the killing of children, I feel like a horrible person. But do you understand where I'm coming from?
Oh, ethics!

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1. What challenge does the case of Eskimo** behavior (or perhaps the behavior of the South American tribe that we watched in the film in class) present to the study of ethics?

In response to the first point, What challenge does the case of the Inuit behavior present to the study of ethics; I believe that although we should respect other cultures, and their beliefs, that killing beings for the sole purpose that they are not useful, is wrong. I think that the central problem here is when can we get rid of certain things in a culture while still respecting the main parts of the culture as a whole. I think that in order to achieve this we have to find the balance between human rights and the right to cultural diversity.

According to the UN the first three human rights are: (this is copy and pasted sorry Andre! :)

Article 1.

All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.

Article 2.

Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.

Article 3.

Everyone has the right to life, liberty and security of person.

Therefore the killing of persons because of any reason should be outlawed in accordance with the UN's Human Rights. There are ways to educate these people (without converting them, thanks evangelicals), so that they can learn to deal with things such as children with disabilities and these people can continue their cultural traditions without violating the Human Rights.